3 Burner Blacksmith Farrier LP Propane Gas Forge Start Price USD 475.00 Current Price USD 475.00 Time Left - Bid Count 1 Buy It Now Price USD 550.00 Reserve Price - Start Time Monday, August 18, 2008 End Time Monday, August 25, 2008 Location Huntersville, North Carolina See more about '3 Burner Blacksmith Farrier LP Propane Gas Forge' Description See my other listings for all available Forges...These are the newest Forges from Diamondback Ironworks. The designs have been completely overhauled. Bigger Fireboxes, better quality Insulation and a new Shell Designs, all in an effort to make them more user friendly. I have worked professionally (see the Gallery on my website...) with Forges from Forgemaster, and Mankel, and have used the NC Tool Co. Forges as well, the Mankels were disappointing, but the others were good units, but had issues I felt needed to be addressed. When it was time for me to purchase a new Forge, I couldn't justify the $700+ Price tag for something I felt could be built better so, off to the drawing board... The results you see today are the result of 4 years of designing, developing and refining. I can honestly say these units outperform anything I had used before, and I am Proud to be able to offer them to you at such a reasonable price. There is something I feel must be said. Ebay has been flooded with junk import forges and US made forges constructed with cheap ceramic brick. I understand the fact that people like to save money. I hope my customers understand the fact that Diamondback Ironworks Forges were designed and built to out perform the best  US made Commercial forges. If they think they are getting the same level of Quality and Performance from the Import or Brick Forges, don't be mistaken. These will heat MUCH faster and use 1/3 the amount of fuel as the Brick Forges because of the State of the Art Ceramic insulations used in these units. Unfortunately, those materials are expensive and there really is no way to get around that fact. If you want quality of this level, you simply can not get it for $225. For that price what you'll get is a $225 forge. The problem is, sellers would lead you to believe that those firebrick forges perform as well as these. There really is nothing I can do when sellers are willing to misrepresent their products for a sale, but anyone in the industry understands the performance characteristics of these refractory materials. The seller even goes as far as to claim his material is "steel mill furnace liner" and not firebrick. I'm sorry, but no company manufacturers a specific "steel mill furnace liner", in fact, what he is using is 3200 degree dense ceramic firebrick splits. Those are the industry standard for steel mill lining materials. The dense firebrick is used as a "hot face" in the furnaces to protect the ceramic insulation (fiber blanket or board) which is used to insulate the vessels. The brick itself has a very high thermal conductivity, meaning heat readily passes through it. The purpose of the dense brick is to protect the real ceramic insulation from the harsh environment and molten metal in the furnaces. Because the poor performance of dense firebrick is an established and well know fact, he chooses to use misleading terminology, but the fact remains, Dense ceramic is not and insulator and should only be used on the floors because of it's ability to resist mechanical wear and welding flux. Ask yourself this, why would he insist that dense firebrick is not dense firebrick? Does he know dense firebrick is a horrible insulator, and is afraid other people know that as well? Whatever the reason, deception is deception, and if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'm damn well gonna call it a duck! I welcome honest competition, it is what pushes the design envelope and inspires innovation. I don't (obviously) have a lot of tolerance for BS sales pitches and lies. 20 years of building the same cheap junk doesn't impress me much, in fact, it's just kind of sad that in 20 years a poor design to begin with hasn't seen a single improvement, that speaks volumes to me. If all you need is a cheap forge for hobby work, a firebrick forge will work ok. If you need a professional quality forge please research the facts for yourself. You need not take my word for it, there is plenty of information out there. If you are doing production work, research the facts before you buy. It's like buying a new shop truck, don't let the used car salesman convince you the 1984 4 cylinder Toyota over in the corner will perform as well as the V-8 powered Super Duty Ford the dealer across the street has, for half the price. Only to find out that when it's loaded up, you have to use caution, take it slow and nurse it down the highway... Be an informed buyer, and beware of the BS Artists unethical practices. The claim that the dense liner will out perform ceramic wool liners is beyond ridiculous, it's laughable and an outright lie! With that said, no, I don't use wool liners, but I do understand their thermal characteristics. I guess that'll be it for this rant, but I just wanted to clear the air, and make people aware of the facts. I hate to sound like this, but how else do you get the truth out when others are willing to mislead you with BS, cheap material and low prices? You really do get what you pay for...In order for you to appreciate the value of these productions units, I invite you to visit the websites of the other US based Commercial Forge Manufacturers. Check out what Forgemaster, NC Tool Co. and Mankel have to offer. Look at their Features, their fit and finish, overall quality and PRICE, then compare it to what Diamondback Ironworks has to offer. I think you'll be surprised at the value of these Forges. I have worked hard Designing, Building, Testing and doing it all over again, in an effort to build a better Commercial Forge than what was available, at a lower cost. I have done it, but in order to keep costs down, they are only available from us, no middlemen with hands in the till to drive the price up. I thank all of you who have supported Diamondback Ironworks in the past, and I thank the rest of you for taking the time to look at our Products. I will answer any questions via email, or for those that like to speak directly to a real live person, I can be reached at 704-948-7676. Feel free to call, I'll do my best to answer any questions you may have. Free eBay Auction Counters from eBayCounters.com Place a Bid!